25 replies to this topic

[Krique]

As a sac pally with 99 vit, how would I reduce damage from HA, acid demo, combat knives, bloody roars, investigate, etc?  Obviously, lowering my vit won't work because I want to be able to do damage with sacrifice.

[SirMeepsalot1]

A ghostring card =P

[zzsh0t]

Don't do vit.

[AlphaXenos]

For Skills that rely on defence for damage, getting lower plussed gears will help. Obviously you'll take more damage from other skills so you gotta find a balance. Maybe that +10 gear isn't so great after all.

[Samsung]

Gear the reduces damage based off of a percentage such as raydric, thara frog, poopoo etc would lower the damage as well ghostring for non-enchanted weapons, AD and inves.

[Quailione]

Samsung, on Mar 13 2006, 01:14 AM, said:

Gear the reduces damage based off of a percentage such as raydric, thara frog, poopoo etc would lower the damage as well ghostring for non-enchanted weapons, AD and inves.

For AD, Defender helps, doesn't it?

[phomega]

The best way would be to get less Vit. But seeing as you can't lower Vit without hampering your Sacrifice damage...

Ghostring Card will save you from AD. It may or may not save you from a HA, depends on whether or not they enchanted. If they do, which they probably will, then it won't help at all. =(

But yeah, AD and HA were designed to tear up Vit whore characters... so. Theres no real way to avoid it. =/

[Samsung]

No, defender won't help against AD.

[Tyrien]

10~15 less vit is no more than 500 damage less on sacrifice. You don't -need- 99 vit to have a good sacrifice paladin anyway. You'd be better off putting those points into agility, strength, or intelligence anyway.

[imymemine]

Tao gunka........o_o

[Gix Mino]

Do what I do.

Cranial+PooPoo+GR+Deviling.

*calculates*

7.875% damage.

That's the damage percentage you'd recieve (without WoE nerfs) using my suggested gear from ALL neutral Attacks.  99 Vit won't much matter with that much of a reduction with AD.  FCP, and you're good to go.  Same with efist.

I've been testing this, and with ~65 vit, I take ~300 damage from Investigate, and so far the best efist has been for 6k (Yoshiiiii~) on my 93 creator.  Haven't tested AD yet though...  That shit's expensive.  xD

Edit:  Now that I look at it:  a 20k AD would only do ~1575 damage on someone equipped with the above.

A 50k Efist would only do 3937.5 Damage.

olol

Edited by Gix Mino, 14 March 2006 - 09:27 AM.

[phatman]

lol shut up gix. stop showing off /rice

[Chris249]

Gix Mino, on Mar 14 2006, 10:21 AM, said:

Do what I do.

Cranial+PooPoo+GR+Deviling.

*calculates*

7.875% damage.

That's the damage percentage you'd recieve (without WoE nerfs) using my suggested gear from ALL neutral Attacks.  99 Vit won't much matter with that much of a reduction with AD.  FCP, and you're good to go.  Same with efist.

I've been testing this, and with ~65 vit, I take ~300 damage from Investigate, and so far the best efist has been for 6k (Yoshiiiii~) on my 93 creator.  Haven't tested AD yet though...  That shit's expensive.  xD

Edit:  Now that I look at it:  a 20k AD would only do ~1575 damage on someone equipped with the above.

A 50k Efist would only do 3937.5 Damage.

olol

zomg clown with VA pwn u tho, ele arrows FTW PLS

[Maxeh]

Chris249, on Mar 14 2006, 04:40 PM, said:

zomg clown with VA pwn u tho, ele arrows FTW PLS

In PVP I get VA'd (on my stalker) for like 400 each hit max, even from the best of clowns.  That's easily outpottable...even with +50% from ele arrows, ranged gets a 60% reduction in WoE.

[Samsung]

Ghost Ele would already be doing 150% because of GR then another 50% on top of that is quite a bit more damage and if you get another clown or sniper spamming it, your HP will go pretty quickly.

[lovecyber]

Chris249, on Mar 14 2006, 03:40 PM, said:

zomg clown with VA pwn u tho, ele arrows FTW PLS

Ele arrows will only go through on GR armor not the cran buck or poo hat

cause thats purely reduce dammage from humanoids or demi human which means including any pvp

[Chris249]

lovecyber, on Mar 22 2006, 03:49 PM, said:

Ele arrows will only go through on GR armor not the cran buck or poo hat

cause thats purely reduce dammage from humanoids or demi human which means including any pvp

except with the devlring card ele does a lot more damage so learn what im reffering to before trying to fight whatever i said please

[lovecyber]

Chris249, on Mar 22 2006, 02:54 PM, said:

except with the devlring card ele does a lot more damage so learn what im reffering to before trying to fight whatever i said please

still itz not better dammage than what will get reduced u c gix said ull get only 7~8% dammage from all those cards and even if u get through GR card then u still get 150% dammage of what will u get from 7~8%.

this eventually means that u will get less dammage than what u will get from no gears wif those cards but ull get lil more dammage from GR card still he'll only get about 2k dammage at most from VA

and he can heal faster than what u hit so u cant kill him

u get where im going?

[Samsung]

Okay, if he's using a ghostring, cranial, poo and deviling and slap on Immaterial Arrows, even with his 40% Demi-Human Reduction, he'll be taking 150% from elemental modifier and an extra 50% from deviling and a further modifier from what ever Hydra and Skel Worker Cards I use.

The math you did is flawed. It wouldn't be 150% of 7~8%, it would be
40% Demi Human Reduction * Elemental Modifier of 150% * Deviling Modifier (150%) which is equal to 135% and that's without a PVP weapon. Then just spam some quick DSes or MSes at him and all he can do is spam pots.

[Pyrrh]

Krique, on Mar 12 2006, 09:59 PM, said:

As a sac pally with 99 vit, how would I reduce damage from [...] acid demo

Get some Pneuma :3